Category: Philosophy for Believers

  • Elgin Hushbeck: All Beliefs are Beliefs

    Elgin Hushbeck: All Beliefs are Beliefs

    elgin_100x119Response #1 to Philosophy for Believers.
    Edward Vick in his book Philosophy for Believers  opens with a statement that is, I believe, undoubtedly true, yet also controversial.  Vick claims that, “We all have many and varied beliefs.”  It is true because of course different people have different beliefs and not all beliefs are created equal. Different beliefs can have differing levels of support.  Even people who hold the same belief may do so for differing of reasons.
    For example, studies show that most people get their political beliefs from their parents.   Many end up with political beliefs which are fairly similar to those of their parents.  However while this is possibly acceptable as a general rule, it is hardly a universal one.   Some, for reasons of family dynamics, will adopt views in conflict with their parents.  Still others will make their own assessment of the evidence and reach their own conclusions. A wide variety of beliefs held for a variety of reasons.

    Different people have different beliefs and not all beliefs are created equal.

    Where this gets controversial is that for some skeptics, there is an additional factor when it comes to considering religious beliefs.  For some skeptics religious beliefs are not just another classification of beliefs, like we might classify beliefs about politics, history or science.  Religious beliefs are an inherently different type of belief, a type of belief that is by definition false, though some would soften this somewhat by saying that they are simply unknowable.   On the other hand, they do not see their beliefs to be beliefs at all; they are just facts to be accepted.
    This is why some skeptics are able to make claims such as ‘there is no evidence for the existence of God.’  Such claims have little to do with the evidence or lack thereof.  Rather, this is more an expression of the skeptic’s belief that there can be no evidence because it is a religious belief. Such views are untenable.  One can have a legitimate debate about the evidence for God, and whether or not it is sufficient to accept a belief in God, but not whether or not any evidence exists.
    Vick’s approach is particularly valuable, in that because of the success of science in discovering the laws that govern the natural word, this has led to the attempt to label a great many beliefs “scientific” on the one hand, and a tendency to automatically accept any belief that is so labeled on the other.   If nothing else, the history of science shows this to be questionable as it is full of examples of accepted scientific views which were later to be over turned by further discovery.
    Ultimately, Vick’s approach is helpful in that it sees beliefs as something not just to be accepted or rejected, but as things to be considered and evaluated.


    Elgin Hushbeck, Jr. is both a Christian apologist and a businessman. He is author of Energion titles Evidence for the Bible, Christianity and Secularism, and Preserving Democracy.

  • Bob LaRochelle: The Value of Raising Serious Questions

    Bob LaRochelle: The Value of Raising Serious Questions

    BobResponse #1 to Philosophy for Believers.
    I very much appreciated the way in which Dr. Vick begins what I think is a wonderful book. With the simple statement, ‘We all have many and varied beliefs’, he opens up for us an in-depth philosophical exploration of the nature and dynamics of faith and belief. In my view, he leads us into a process of serious self examination on both the intellectual and the spiritual levels.
    The statement itself expresses a simple reality. Whether one looks at the wider world around us or at our local communities, one cannot help but recognize that there is a pluralism of belief systems that coexist with one another. Some might be inclined to bemoan this reality and would prefer to help lead people to the ‘truth’ as they understand it, usually posited by them as objective reality from a source outside of themselves.
    In my view, the simple fact is that when we are born, we are thrust into a world which is mysterious to us. As we grow and develop, the specifics of that mystery unfold. Simply because we are human and are capable of thinking, many questions come into our minds as we experience life. We wonder about how life began and who or what might have been there at its beginning. Facing the simple fact that such a thing as death exists, we ask questions about what happens to us individually and collectively after we die. Recognizing the fact of our finite limitedness, we wonder about the inherent meaning to be found in how we live our days.
    As I see it, that which we call RELIGION is our personal response to the mysteries of life as set within the wider context of the MYSTERY that is life itself. Within the world as we know it, there exist many and varied responses to these mysteries of ORIGIN (Where did I and we come from?), DESTINY (where am/are I/we going?), and MEANING (what is the purpose of it all while we are here?).

    I can gladly claim that in honest response to that mystery, faith emerges, faith in the One whose greatness cannot be fully grasped or explained over the course of our mortal existence.

    The different approaches to this mystery are evidenced in a variety of different ways.  They certainly shape the theologies that are part and parcel of the multiplicity of world religions. They also emerge in the various creative processes in which human beings engage. Profound philosophical positions on life’s greatest mysteries are to be found in literary works, dramatic performances and the art work and music of different cultures. Whether one explores Shakespeare’s great soliloquies, the absurdist dialogue in Beckett or Ionesco, or the lyrics of a Bob Dylan, one sees human beings responding to life’s mysteries in many and varied ways.
    Writing as a believing Christian and as a pastor in the church, I find myself observing this multiplicity of responses within the Christian community as well. The fact that there is some diversity of approaches within Christianity is troublesome to those who are convinced that the objective answers are clear and that the work of the church involves presenting that objective truth to others so that they accept it for their own well being and salvation. Sadly, there are some in the churches who dismiss honest intellectual inquiry and the value of raising serious questions. They see this as antithetical to the the practice of religion and even to faith itself.
    Over the course of church history, some church communities have focused on the church itself as the definer of objective truth. They have encouraged their adherents to look to the church for the specific answers to the great mysteries of life and thus to the important decisions they must make in their own personal lives.
    In reaction to this, other church communities, concerned that the institutional church had strayed too far from the Word of God as found in Scripture, have focused on turning to the Bible as the source of objective reality and truth.
    Thus historically, within the Christian church, there has been tension between those who have advocated that truth may be found in turning to the Bible without benefit of church teaching and others who have argued that Scripture must be interpreted in light of ongoing tradition.
    Simply put, some Christians believe that one can find objective truth by turning to specific interpretations of faith by the church. Others believe that truth is found by simply looking inside the Bible. Both positions emerge from the deeper position that God has intended either the church or the Bible to be the vehicle by which objective truth is conveyed.
    As I see it, both views assume that mystery can be defined clearly either through interaction with the sacred text or by adherence to the rules and doctrine of the community. Ongoing tensions exist within the Christian community between these adherents and those who see these issues and questions as far more complex, involving the use of intellect (God given, I would contend) and the exercise of human conscience.
    These brief comments are not intended as a fully developed commentary on the place of Scripture and tradition in the life of the individual believer. Instead I am attempting to state how Dr. Vick’s simple assertion that there exists in our world  a diversity and multiplicity of beliefs resonates with the core reality of human experience- that we are thrust into the world and, as we grow, we ask questions, questions about the BIG QUESTIONS- life, death, the meaning of it all…..
    As a result of people coming up with different answers to these questions, there has emerged a wide variety of philosophical approaches and systems throughout the course of human history. We have seen the work of an Aquinas who has spelled out specific proofs for the existence of God and the actual qualities of that deity. On the other end, we note the work of those existentialists for whom the presence of the divine has essentially been dismissed.
    These differing philosophical positions have led to diverse theologies as there is a fine line between the two disciplines. Within the rather large continuum of positions, we each take our stands, philosophically and theologically.
    In essence, Dr. Vick’s opening remarks state the obvious. In my view, there is a relationship between the fact that there are different beliefs and that life itself is a mystery. Having said that,  I can gladly claim that in honest response to that mystery, faith emerges, faith in the One whose greatness cannot be fully grasped or explained over the course of our mortal existence.


    Dr. Bob LaRochelle is a pastor, educator and an author. His Energion titles are Crossing the Street, So Much Older Then …, and the forthcoming What Protestants Need to Know about Roman Catholics. Early next year, there will be a companion volume to the last book, What Roman Catholics Need to Know about Protestants.

  • Responding to Philosophy for Believers

    9781938434549mI have asked two Energion authors for an extended response to our recent release, Philosophy for Believers by Edward W. H. Vick. These responses will be posted once each month for the next 13 months, covering all thirteen chapters of the book.
    There are two purposes for these responses. The first is to discuss and respond to the approach taken in the book. But the second is more important. It is to see how to people who are in the trenches, so to speak, apply this material in their work.
    Dr. Bob LaRochelle is a pastor, educator and an author. His Energion titles are Crossing the Street, So Much Older Then …, and the forthcoming What Protestants Need to Know about Roman Catholics. Early next year, there will be a companion volume to the last book, What Roman Catholics Need to Know about Protestants.
    Elgin Hushbeck, Jr. is both a Christian apologist and a businessman. He is author of Energion titles Evidence for the Bible, Christianity and Secularism, and Preserving Democracy.
    Each response will be published as a separate post using the category Philosophy for Believers. They will be posted near the end of each month.
    Feel free to comment on these topics. We’d love discussion. If you blog about the topic at or around the same time, we will be happy to post a link here to your post. Join the discussion in whatever way works best for you.

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    Topics

    1. The first sentence is: We all have many and varied beliefs. Dr. Vick builds the book around this point, saying there is a difference in the meaning of various types of beliefs and how they are justified, but they are nonetheless “beliefs.” Many skeptics, on the other hand, would maintain that there is a much greater distinction between belief in a scientific and a religious context. Since this is a fundamental idea for the entire book, how do you respond to this? Do you find Vick’s approach to this topic viable? Helpful? (Elgin Husbheck’s Response, Bob LaRochelle’s Response)
    2. The crucial question for a Christian in the second chapter is the relationship between testimony, belief, and knowledge. How important is historical testimony to your beliefs as a Christian? What about contemporary testimony, for example, claims of a miracle? (I note here that I can no longer see this as a liberal vs. conservative issue with liberal author Bruce Epperly maintaining that Jesus did, in fact, heal [Healing Marks, Energion, 2013], and also that God can and does act in the world. So I’m not asking “Do you believe in miracle stories in the Bible?” but rather “How does the testimony of others relate to your belief, whatever that belief is?”) (Bob LaRochelle’s Response, Elgin Hushbeck’s Response)
    3. There are a number of crucial issues in this chapter, but I think the best place to respond is on the issue of “proof” and “belief,” question #19 in the book exercises. “Fred believes that he can prove the existence of God. He believes that to believe in God you have to be able to prove that God exists. Frederica believes neither of these. What is the issue between them?” (Bob LaRochelle’s Response, Elgin Hushbeck’s Response)
    4. I’m taking question #4 from the exercises: “What is a ‘world-view’? Do you have a world-view? Is there a common modern world-view about the cosmos?” Then I would add, “How important is “world-view” to the way we respond to new information?
    5. Again, from the exercises, this time question #6: “Should we distinguish between different kinds of explanation, for example: common sense explanation, ad hoc explanation, scientific explanation, historical explanation? Do these or some of them have anything in common? Do different subject matters require different kinds of explanation?” I would be most interested in looking at the difference (if any) between explanation of a religious claim, a historical claim based (potentially) on the supernatural, and scientific claims.
    6. This time building from question 3, though you may want to include 4: “Does religious experience provide us with a reason for believing in God? Specify an argument from religious experience to the existence and activity of God.” The handling of religious experience is key to Dr. Vick’s thinking, not only in this book, but in others, such as his From Inspiration to Understanding: Reading the Bible Seriously and Faithfully (Energion, 2012). If you have not, and would like to read that, I’ll be happy to send a copy.
    7. I’m going to use question #1 from the exercises: “Relate the doctrine of God’s providence to the conviction of the uniformity of nature, and the consistency of natural law.” I use this because it is one I hear rather frequently, and there are a number of different explanations.
    8. I don’t have a specific question to raise, but rather a section, #8, pp. 167-168 on open theism. Relate open theism, process theology, and more traditional understandings of God’s foreknowledge. This might get too broad, but if you try to stick to understanding providence in connection with the apparent uniformity of nature (if that is correct), it should narrow things down a bit. You probably should avoid getting into the Calvinist vs. Arminian debate, though perhaps you can’t!
    9. I’m taking the question from the chapter summary: “But is it possible to tell ourselves a lie and then believe the lie we tell ourselves? Is such irrationality a feature of human life?”
    10. From the chapter summary: “An explanation of how to account for mental activity cannot speak only in biological terms of brain activity. We may not neglect the fact that our experiences have a particular quality of ‘feeling’.” Does Dr. Vick successfully take us to the conclusion that the mind is more than biological function?
    11. Does the concept of “identity” matter to you in your understanding of the afterlife, resurrection, or similar concepts?
    12. I’d almost like to make up another question, but the one asked in the chapter summary is too classic to ignore: “How does the occurrence of miracles relate to well established natural or scientific laws?”
    13. State your basic understanding of how faith and science relate, if they do. Can there be conflict if both are done properly? How should it be resolved.
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