Tag: violence

  • First Question: Violence

    Background

    Someone once told me that if you wanted to find a bad law, just look for one that was named for a particular crime victim. The more a law was tailored to a specific event, the less effective it would be in dealing with the problem at hand, and the worse side effects it would have. Currently the massacre in Newtown, Connecticut has opened a debate on the issue of gun violence in this country. I’ve noticed a tendency to argue particular policies based on whether they would have been successful in preventing that specific incident.
    For example, would eliminating loopholes in background checks on gun purchases at gun shows have kept the Sandy Hook shooter from acquiring the guns he used? Would an armed guard in the elementary school have prevented the tragedy or at least some of the loss of life? Irrespective of whether either of those policies would be effective and appropriate, focusing on whether they would have prevented a single incident seems to be too narrow a focus in formulating a policy.

    So here’s the first question:

    What are the three most important actions that should (or should not) be taken in this country to deal with violent crime in public places? (Not taking an action that others advocate may be an “action,” for example, not placing guards in schools or not changing laws on background checks might be one of your three actions.)
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  • Elgin Hushbeck: First Answer

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    Following each mass killing, as the shock, outrage, and grief fade, and sometimes even before this, the question inevitably becomes what should we do?  Is there any way that we could stop these from occurring?  As with so much in our society, there are vast differences in how people begin to answer this question.
    The first and perhaps biggest divide is over how to understand the problem.  Is this a problem with people, or things? This difference manifests itself in the debate over gun control.  Those who call for more gun control see the problem in terms of things and believe that the solution is to be found in controlling the things that are causing the problems, i.e., guns.
    Even if they were correct, the approach of controlling guns is at best problematic. Even if we put the issue of the Second Amendment aside, there are still a lot of practical issues that question the efficacy of controlling guns as a solution to mass shooting.
    The simple fact is that hunting, and in some places even self-protection, mean that guns are an integral part of people’s lives.  And self-protection here does not mean just against crime. Some, for example, take a pistol loaded with snake shot when fishing.   So as a bottom line, a complete ban on guns is about as likely as a complete ban on automobiles. After all, cars kill far more people each year.
    Pushing for a partial ban is even more problematic.  While commonly done under the guise of banning “assault weapons,” the term “assault weapon” is a political term, more than a description of a type of weapon.   Trying to draw any effective line between what is an “assault weapon”  vs. other supposedly more legitimate types of firearms is very difficult if not completely arbitrary, and hardly effective.
    But there is a deeper problem with gun control that goes to the heart of different ways of viewing this issue.  Here in Wisconsin we recently passed a concealed carry law.  As a result, a number of businesses put up signs banning concealed weapons on their property.  These signs puzzle me. Frankly, I find it very difficult to conceive of someone intent on committing mass murder coming to one of these businesses, seeing the sign prohibiting the carrying of concealed weapons, and saying, “Oh darn,  I guess I will just have to go find somewhere else to inflict my reign of terror” as they walk off disheartened.
    In fact, the evidence would indicate that the opposite is true. These mass murderers go to places where there will be a lot of people, and where they can be reasonably assured that they will be the only ones with guns.
    The reason for this can be seen with the shooting in Colorado in 2007.  Having shot 4 people at Youth With A Mission in Arvada, the murderer went to the New Life Church in Colorado Springs with multiple firearms.  He murdered 16 and 18 year old sisters in the parking lot before heading into the church.  He wounded 3 others, before his shooting spree was cut short by Jeanne Assam, who had been carrying a concealed weapon, and who shot him.
    So guns are not the problem. The concealed weapon carried by Assam saved lives.  The problem is people who seek to murder others.  Get rid of all guns, and you would still have a problem, and given how lethal other options can be, perhaps even a bigger one.
    While it runs against the grain of so much conventional wisdom, the lesson of the New Life Church shooting is that less gun control, not more, may be a more effective solution.  Pick any of the recent mass shootings and imagine there had been someone like Jeanne Assam carrying a concealed weapon.  If nothing else, just the knowledge that there might be a Jeanne Assam present would likely make a murderer more cautious, slowing them down and giving the police more time to arrive.
    But while this would reduce the death toll, it still would not go to the heart of the problem, which involves people, not things.   Part of the problem is that our care of the mentally ill has been significantly crippled by the concern over civil rights and privacy since the 1960s.  One result of this is seen in the homeless problem–people who are incapable of caring for themselves but who cannot be institutionalized.
    But the problem is even deeper.   One aspect of this has been the attack on the family structure, and the resulting breakdown of the family.  As George Guilder wrote in his landmark book, Wealth and Poverty, the family structure is the basic social unit and if it is allowed to collapse, we will need a welfare state to take care of the women, and a police state to deal with the men.   Thus one thing we could do is seek ways to strengthen the family.  The problem is that this cannot be done without quickly running into the most basic problem of all: the inability to make moral judgments.
    For decades now, we have raised our children with the false belief that we should not judge others; that it is wrong to say that some choices are good and some are bad.  Instead, we celebrate diversity.  It is clearly false because it is self-refuting, for to say you should not judge, is to judge those who do.
    While this is a much bigger problem than just violence, it does show up there as well.  Following the murder of nine people at a Mall in Omaha, a friend of the murderer reflected this non-judgmental view when he said, “I don’t think anything less of him, because I know that [he] would never have done anything like this just for the fun of it, it was he wanted to go out in style and that is what he did, he went out in style.”
    There are a lot of other things that could be added to this list, and ultimately, given the nature of sin, we will probably never be able to eliminate mass murder, but we could go a long way towards reducing them.
     
     
     
     
     

  • Joel Watts: First Answer

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    What are the three most important actions that should be taken in this country to deal with violent crime in public places?
    The issue of violent crime is a social issue, so it must be handled in a communal fashion. One of the largest factors in promoting inaction in response to violent crime is the neurosis of individuality. I do not propose this as an action or step; however, we must recognize the role our focus on individuality against community have in our reactions to these events. How often do we hear, after the fact, a community react by saying they had suspected something was going on; yet, no one says anything, or much of anything, because they tend to shy away from seeing all lives in a community dependent upon one another.
    One action we can take is first is to look at the way we speak about and address mental health concerns in this country. There is still a stigma attached to various conditions we know are treatable with medication and non-dangerous. Worse yet are the stigmas attached to even seeking mental help. Nationally, we have seen ads run opposing domestic abuse, drunk driving, and a host of other issues that seek to inform public opinion or to destigmatize the reporting of various issues. It would be worthwhile to have a national campaign to destigmatize mental illness, ranging from depression to far deeper issues. Likewise, an increase in funding to mental health facilities is needed. Free screenings could be a part of a national health care plan as well as a mandatory part of employee health care plans. Granted, many plans already include some sort of mental health care, but likewise, these plans must assure the employees of their confidentiality.
    A second path forward is one that seeks to prevent the ability to carry out  mass violence. Magazines should have their capacities limited. The higher the capacity for damage the lower the capacity of bullets. For example, the AR-15 would be limited to, say three rounds. The .22 pistol will have whatever magazine can fit in the handle without exceeding the handle. Further, all weapons with magazines will need to have added features so that reloading is an involved process. In other words, the magazine cannot be reloaded with a single hand, but must involve both. Also, I would limit the number of weapons a person can own, either by weapon count or magazine capacity count. Perhaps one can own 15 round magazines. A bolt-action rifle with one round magazine will enable a person to own fifteen. Along these same lines, we must close the holes around gun shows and private sellers. Also, I would include a mandatory license for gun owners that one can get only with training. This license will have to provide an option young hunters, however.
    There must be a concerted effort to remove all illegal guns from the American populace.  Chicago, at the moment, has the highest gun murder rate in the country. I would support the Illinois National Guard (that well-regulated militia provided for by the Constitution) as deputized members of local law enforcement going door to door in the most crime ridden neighborhoods of Chicago and confiscating illegal weapons. It would be beneficial to have a designated day or two to allow all illegal weapons to find their way into the hands of local authorities without penalty or questions asked. This could be replicated on a State-by-State basis so that illegal weapons would be off the streets. These guns would be destroyed within one day of confiscation so as to prevent re-dissemination. Further, the owners of the guns, if they can be identified, will pay a fine unless they could prove that the guns were sold (privately) or stolen and reported to the police. If pawn shops or private gun dealers were found to have sold stolen weapons or allowed stolen weapons to go unreported, they would be fined and their business licenses forfeited.

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